So, you want to learn how to write better poetry. Maybe you’re just venturing out into the wild lands of poetic verse for the first time. Maybe you’re a seasoned poet wanting to expand your repertoire of techniques or your knowledge of your poetic predecessors. 

Maybe you just want to write one stunning poem to impress a love interest.

Whatever your reasons for wanting to learn poetry, you’ve come to the right place. In this article, I explore the best online poetry workshops. Online poetry courses are a fantastic way to gain essential skills as a poet without shelling out tens of thousands of dollars and spending years of your life in an MFA program. Some courses cover the basics and others are tailored to specific areas of interest, styles, or techniques.

In this article, I collected the 15 best online poetry courses. I included both free and paid courses for poets of all experience levels. This list includes online courses that focus on writing poetry and reading poetry, and even some unique courses that blend poetry instruction with mindfulness, acting techniques, or music. If you take any of these courses, please let me know what you think of it!

Best Online Poetry Workshops (Paid)

1. Amanda Gorman Teaches Writing and Performing Poetry – Masterclass

• Price: $180 (includes access to hundreds of other courses)
• Number of Sessions: 16
• Live Instruction? No
• Instructor feedback?  No

Learn writing and performing poetry from a master of both. Amanda Gorman is one of America’s most highly acclaimed contemporary poets. She is perhaps most well-known for her delivery of her poem, “The Hill We Climb,” at the 2021 presidential inauguration.

Learning from the youngest US Poet Laureate in US history may sound intimidating. But Amanda Gorman is anything but an intimidating lecturer. “Everyone Can Write Poetry” is the title of her second lecture, and she shows up in each section as an encouraging and inspiring teacher willing to mount a ferocious defense of your right to stand alongside her as a fellow poet. In her class, she shares the intimate details of her own personal challenges during her writing journey and talks about how you, too, can overcome these obstacles. 

In the second class, she describes her personal journey of becoming a poet, saying, “When I first began writing, to me, it didn’t seem like I belonged as a poet or in literature. You’re talking about a Black girl with a disability, specifically that of a speech impediment, wanting to be a spoken word poet. That, in itself, felt so antithetical to what I was seeing represented in literature. And as I began writing and reading more, I recognized that my own story of feeling on the outside looking in was really at the heart of what it means to be a poet.”

Amanda Gorman’s classes are accessible, fun, highly practical, and full of rich detail and instruction that will inspire you for years to come. When I took her class, I was able to forget for a moment that I was watching a living legend, and instead felt like I was sitting down with a gifted friend who believed in me.

The curriculum is as follows:

1. Introduction
2. Everyone Can Write Poetry
3. Before Writing, Read
4. Case Study: Close Reading – “On the Pulse of Morning”
5. How to Start Writing
6. Researching Your Poem
7. Case Study: Brainstorming Plummer
8. The Writing Toolkit
9. Finding Your Unique Poetic Voice
10. Revision, Revision, Revision
11. Case Study: Editing and Revision
12. Before Performing, Watch
13. The Performance Toolkit
14. Case Study: Performance of Poetry
15. Building Your Career as a Poet
16. Breakthrough: Behind the Scenes of “The Hill We Climb”

2. Various Poetry Workshops – Writers.com

• Price: $295-$495
• Number of Sessions: 4-10
• Live Instruction? Yes
• Instructor feedback? Yes (in many cases)

Writers.com offers a portfolio of live online poetry courses taught by experts. Classes are taught on zoom, giving you the chance to interact with your instructors and fellow students. Many courses offer the chance to receive critique. 

My favorite part about these courses is that they are led by a diverse cast of extraordinary instructors who speak to the heart as much as the mind. You’re not limited to stuffy scholars explaining the intricacies of classical forms if that’s not what you want (though there’s certainly a place for that). Instead, you courses like “Telling Truth” and “Observing What’s Vivid in Prose and Poetry.”

I also love that classes are run live, so you have plenty of opportunities to interact with instructors and students.

They also offer highly-specific goal-oriented courses, such as a course on “completing your first poetry manuscript.” 

For the price, the courses from Writers.com are some of the best-value poetry courses on this list, as they include live interaction with expert instructors.

Current courses include:

Telling Truth: A Poetry Workshop

What is “truth?” How can you find yours? How do we tell our stories in ways that feel truthful to us? Where should we dive deeper? What should we leave out?” In this course, “Ollie Schminkey (they/them), will give poets of all experience levels the tools to write and edit your own poems that speak to some part of your truth.”

The Joy of Poetry: A Beginner-Friendly Workshop

This course is the perfect way to get started as a poet. There are no critiques, so those who have were scarred by their teachers’ comments in middle school needn’t worry about having the same experience. This course is all about finding the joy and fun in writing poetry – with a mix of playful exercises and challenging new techniques. You’ll learn the basics in a more relaxed environment and have fun doing it.

Putting It All Together: Completing Your First Poetry ,Manuscript

Are you ready to put a collection of your poems into the world, but unsure where to begin? This course is the perfect toolkit to get you from “jumble of poems” to “completed collection.” Over the course of 8 weeks, you will create new poems, identify a theme for your collection, learn how to order your poems, and even learn how to format your collection for publication.

As a teacher, Caitlin is approachable, savvy, and brimming with expertise.

3. Billy Collins Teaches Reading and Writing Poetry – Masterclass

• Price: $180 (includes access to hundreds of other online courses)
• Number of Sessions: 20
• Live Instruction? No
• Instructor feedback?  No

One of America’s most beloved poets, Billy Collins, teaches reading and writing poetry. Complete with extremely practical writing exercises as well as deeper, more philosophical discussions, this class gives new writers and seasoned poets alike the opportunity to receive instruction from a former US Poet Laureate.

In the promotional clip for the course, Collins begins by saying, “You should probably read all of your poems out loud. Dogs are very good to read poetry to. Cats not so much. Fish are good. If you have a goldfish, your first audience before you send your poetry out into the world.”

Don’t be intimidated by Collins’ accolades – he is a humble and down-to-earth teacher. As I took his class, I felt like I was with a small group of graduate students taking Billy Collins’ favorite class to teach. 

When I was taking this class, one of my favorite parts was the little stories and anecdotes Collins uses to illustrate his points. He talks about “Being a poet even when you’re not writing poetry,” that is, walking around with a poetic lens. Then some, the urge to write a poem strikes unexpectedly. This happened to him, he explains, and he went into a bank and wrote a poem on four deposit slips. As he left, the security guard eyed him suspiciously.

Billy Collins is as great a teacher as he is a poet. He knows how to make classes fun and engaging, and how to make his points stick.

The curriculum is as follows:

1. The Pleasure Poetry Gives Us
2. Working With Form
3. Discovering the Subject
4. Writing the Poem
5. Writing Process
6. Reading: Connecting With Poetry
7. Discussion With Marie Howe: Emily Dickenson
8. Discussion With Marie Howe: William Stafford
9. Sound Pleasures
10. Playing a Visible Game
11. Turning a Poem
12. Discussion With Marie Howe: “What the Living Do”
13. Discussion With Marie Howe: “The Death of the Hat”
14. Finding Your Voice: Influences
15. Finding Your Voice: Creating a Persona
16. Humor as a Serious Strategy
17. Student Discussion: “My (Muslim) Father Seizes the Thing on the Nightstand”
18. Student Discussion: “The Crash” by Paul Epland 
19. Discussion with Marie Howe: Writing Poetry
20. A Poet’s Journey

4. Writing Poetry (Online) – University of Oxford

• Price: £535.00
• Number of Sessions: 10
• Live Instruction? No
• Instructor feedback? Unknown

This is your opportunity to learn poetry from one of the most prestigious English-speaking universities in the world. Oxford offers an online poetry course with guided reading and writing, with the opportunity for discussion and analysis.

Their goal is to make poetry accessible to more people. According to their website, “Poetry can seem like a members-only club. Even the names of poetic forms such as ‘sonnet’, ‘villanelle’, and ‘sestina’ can be as intimidating as the list of writers associated with them, from Shakespeare to Shelley to Sean O’Brien. This course is designed to demystify poetic composition, and to help students to gain the confidence to produce poems of their own.”

While there is a start date, there are no live sessions, so you can adapt the learning schedule to your other commitments. (If you prefer live instruction, this is not the course for you.) There are discussions with other classmates via an online forum. This course is a great foundation for new poetry writers, and a fine refresher for experienced poets.

The curriculum is as follows:

1. Rhyme, Rhythm and Metre
2. Figurative Language
3. Divisions
4. Blank Verse
5. Syllabic verse and free verse
6. Free Verse II
7. Lyric Poetry
8. The Sonnet
9. Pastoral
10. What More and What Next

5. Writing Poems – Faber Academy

• Price: £595
• Number of Sessions: 12 weeks
• Live Instruction? Yes
• Instructor feedback? Unknown

This 12-week online poetry writing course is geared towards beginning writers. Writing Poems is designed to help you get into writing poems from scratch. It features a variety of instructors, so you’ll have the chance to learn from a diversity of perspectives. 

Unlike many other online poetry courses, this one takes place live over Zoom. It’s a great opportunity for live instruction and interaction with other poetry students.

“Together, our experienced tutors have put together a course aimed at inspiring beginner writers so that they create new poems, learn to make more discerning judgements about their own work, and are inspired afresh by poetry. The course aims to be positive, supportive and fun, so that by the end of the twelve weeks, each poet will come away invigorated by a desire to write the best work they can, and in possession of new poems to set them on their way. We’ll end the course with an evening designed to help you navigate the next steps too.”

The curriculum of the current course (as of this writing) is as follows:

• Session 1: Improvising the Poem 
• Session 2: Alibis and Excuses
• Session 3: Introduction to the Lyric (and Anti-Lyric)
• Session 4: Editing and Drafting with Richard
• Session 5: Trivial Pursuits
• Session 6: Line Breaks 
• Session 7: Time Travel 
• Session 8: Your First Workshop 
• Session 9: Mixing Registers 
• Session 10: The Sonnet and Some Uses for Form
• Session 11: Mixing Genres with Maurice
• Session 12: Consolidation, Next Steps & Group Reading

6. Creative Writing: Poetry – Berklee College of Music

• Price: $1,265 (non-credit)
• Number of Sessions: 12
• Live Instruction? Yes
• Instructor feedback? Yes

This is an accredited online course with a well-respected four-year university. While it’s expensive, you’ll be getting the same experience you would as a student enrolled in the Berklee College of Music. This course is perfect for anyone who is serious about learning the craft of poetry in an academic setting.

This course is also unique in that it looks at poetry from a musician’s lens. 

“The course uses musical vocabulary to examine the elements and functions of poetry, exploring how to make things move and stop, stop and move, just like in music. You’ll see how the compositional aspects of poetry create their own music, independent of what’s being said, and act like a film score to underpin and color your ideas.”

The curriculum is as follows:

1. Prose vs Poetry
2. Managing End-Stops
3. Managing Caesuras
4. Managing Enjambment 
5. Writing in Iambic Pentameter
6. Substituting in Iambic Pentameter
7. Writing in Blank Verse
8. Blank Verse Again
9. Using Rhyme
10. English (or Shakespearean) Sonnet
11. Italian (or Petrarchian) Sonnet
12. The Terza Rhyme

7. Online Pause with Poetry – City Academy

• Price: Unknown
• Number of Sessions: Unknown
• Live Instruction? Yes
• Instructor feedback? Unknown

This is not your ordinary poetry course. They describe it as “A calm, relaxing online course that encourages mindfulness with an actor’s approach to poetry.” 

Online Pause With Poetry is designed with a curriculum based in mindfulness. All sessions are held live via zoom, and are interactive. During the course, you learn how acting techniques apply to the craft of poetry. This course is perfect for anyone wanting to try a novel approach to writing poetry and learn acting techniques that apply to the craft of writing.

Their website describes the course as follows:

1. Begin with mindfulness exercises to pause, reflect, and respond to the breath.
2. Learn acting techniques to unlock the power of poetry on the page.
3. Discover the meditative quality of imaginative writing as you explore the work of renowned poets.
4. Thrive in a calm, holistic virtual environment supported by a professional actor.

8. The Essentials of Poetry Writing – Creative Writing Now

• Price: $26.95
• Number of Sessions: 8
• Live Instruction? No
• Instructor feedback? No

The Essentials of Poetry is one of the most affordable poetry courses available, at only $26.95 for an 8-week course. The course does not include live instruction or feedback on poems, but you do have the chance to ask the instructor general questions about the course material.

In 8 weeks of instruction, The Essentials of Poetry Writing covers the essentials of poetry writing. In my estimation, this is a fantastic course for the price.

“Great poems often seem to touch the reader’s emotions directly. Lines from certain poems can live on in the reader’s mind forever.

“In this course, you’ll learn the hidden techniques that make some poems so powerful. You’ll learn to write poems that work on more than one level at the same time, poems that create an intense mood or atmosphere, poems that show your readers new ways of looking at the world.”

The curriculum is as follows:

• Week 1: Introduction to Poetry
• Week 2: Subject Matter
• Week 3: Words and Images
• Week 4: Lines and Stanzas
• Week 5: Meter
• Week 6: Rhythm
• Week 7: Rhyme
• Week 8: Patterns

9. Poetry: How to Read a Poem – University of York via Futurelearn

• Price: $59 or $27.99/month
• Number of Sessions: 4 (16 hours total)
• Live Instruction? No
• Instructor feedback? No 

This poetry course is designed to help readers understand poetry, even when doing so can be difficult. While it’s oriented towards readers, it also offers guidance on developing your own poetic voice.

Over the course of four weeks and sixteen hours, you’ll explore different poetic forms and genres, how poems create their effects, the social and cultural dynamics that influence poetry, and some critical arguments about poetry and literature.

Here’s what they say on the course website: “On this course, you’ll build your confidence in reading and enjoying poetry. Whether you’re a poetry fanatic or you’re eager to learn, you’ll learn tools for approaching the study of poetry, ways to express your appreciation of poetry, and ways to find new riches in your favourite poems.”

The curriculum is as follows:

• Week 1: Introduction and Foundations
• Week 2: Poetic Form
• Week 3: Intertextuality
• Week 4: Writing (About) Poetry

10. Various Poetry Workshops – Poetry School

• Price: €122-€193
• Number of Sessions: Varies
• Live Instruction? No
• Instructor feedback? Depends

Poetry School is a leading online poetry school based in the UK with a wide range of online and offline courses that sell out quickly. You can see their current portfolio of poetry workshops here. Courses are text-only and taught by experienced instructors.

“Year on year, we offer one of the largest programmes of online poetry courses in the world, covering a huge array of subjects and techniques, and available to you with as little as an Internet connection. Much like our face-to-face teaching, each online course is facilitated by one of our experienced tutors, who will provide quality writing assignments, reading material and personalised feedback on your poems, but in this instance, all via a virtual classroom.”

Class sessions run every two weeks. Students are expected to post poems in response to assignments and offer feedback on fellow students’ work. Discussions are held in a text chatroom. They also offer studios and biweekly feedback courses.

I’ve noticed that their courses tend to fill up rather quickly, so if you’re interested in joining one, you may want to join their mailing list or check their website frequently for new courses.

11. An Introduction to Poetry – UK Writers College

• Price: £465.00
• Number of Sessions: 10
• Live Instruction? No
• Instructor feedback? Yes

This unique poetry course takes the form of one-on-one tutoring. There are no other classmates – just a curriculum to follow and the personal guidance of an experienced poet. Over the course of three modules and 15 assignments, you will learn the essentials of poetry writing and receive feedback that will help you hone your craft. An Introduction to Poetry is the ideal choice for people looking for guidance on writing and editing poetry.

The curriculum is as follows:

Module 1: An Introduction to Poetry: Where do poets find their inspiration? 

• Where do poets find their inspiration? 
• Line length and line breaks 
• Assignments

Module 2: Figures of Speech in Poetry 

• Why we use figures of speech 
• Understanding metaphors, similes and poetic devices 
• Assignments

Module 3: Rhythm and Rhyme 

• Must a poem rhyme? 
• Understanding rhythm 
• Using assonance, consonance, alliteration and other sound effects 
• Assignments

12. Poetry Writing Diploma Course – Centre of Excellence

• Price: £127
• Number of Sessions: 11
• Live Instruction? No
• Instructor feedback? No

This online poetry course is a thorough introduction to the craft of poetry. The course is self-paced and students have lifetime access to the materials, which includes 11 modules. 

In this course, you will identify and practice key elements of the poetic process. You will also get an essential primer on publishing your work – something that most other online poetry courses are lacking.

They explain on their website, “It’s not enough just to love poetry. Having an awareness of how the world’s greatest poets used different forms and tools such as rhythm, rhyme and figurative language to establish their statements and ideas, can give you the confidence to do likewise.

“If you’re interested in writing your own poetry and don’t know where to start or are revisiting the craft and would like to strengthen your knowledge of the foundations, then this is the course for you.”

The course is accredited through the Quality License Scheme (though not through a university). 

The curriculum is as follows:

1. What is Poetry?
2. The Language of Poetry
3. Form and Structure
4. Figurative Language – Imagery
5. Additional Language Devices
6. Metre and Rhythm
7. Rhyme
8. Finding Your Poet’s Voice
9. How to Improve Your Writing
10. Getting Published
11. Publishing Your Poetry Book

Free Online Poetry Workshops

13. Sharpened Visions: A Poetry Workshop (Free) – California Institute of the Arts via Coursera

• Price: Free 
• Number of Sessions: 6
• Live Instruction? No
• Instructor feedback? No (peer feedback is available)

The California Institute of the Arts presents this free online poetry workshop for all those interested in pursuing the path of poetry. Over six sessions, they cover the fundamentals of poetic form, style, and approach. 

You will learn everything you need to know to start writing poetry. Sharpened Visions is oriented towards beginners.

As an experienced poet who was lacking in formal training, I found Sharpened Visions to be an incredible resource. The platform Coursera is easy to navigate, and their lessons are well-crafted. The lessons are primarily taught through short videos, which I appreciated (and I’m sure those of the TikTok generation will as well).

About the instructor: I found the instructor, Douglas Keanney, to be absolutely incredible. His style is highly engaging and down-to-earth. While a university course may evoke images of stuffy professors, Douglas Keanney is anything but. He even starts out a lesson by eating a muffin, then saying “Oh, I didn’t see you there!”

For those (like myself) who prefer less conventional learning styles, I would recommend you give this course a try – it might surprise you as it did me.

“Poetry can change the way you and your readers think of the world and its inhabitants; it can break new ground for language; turn a blank sheet of paper into a teeming concert of voices and music. 

“Though any of us may have the potential to make that happen, having an understanding of how several tools of poetic composition can be used (and audaciously “mis-used”) gives you more ways to try.”

The curriculum is as follows:

1. Introduction and the Poetic Line
2. Abstraction and Image
3. Metaphor and Other Formulas of Difference
4. Rhyme
5. Rhythm
6. Sharpened Poetry: Revision Strategies

14. Modern Poetry – Open Yale Courses

• Price: Free 
• Number of Sessions: 25
• Live Instruction? No
• Instructor feedback? No

This is your chance to learn the art of poetry from one of Yale’s professors. Yale recorded all of his lectures and now provides them, along with the course materials, to the public free of charge. 

This course is more focused on reading and understanding poetry than it is on writing poetry. However, it is the most comprehensive course on modern and contemporary poetry that’s available for free online.

This course is quite different from the above course from the California Institute for the Arts. It’s far more classically academic. It is a series fo recorded lectures to in-person students, not made for online viewing. The lectures are also about 45 minutes long instead of under 10 minutes. The instructor, Langdon Hammer, has a different teaching style.

For all these reasons, I personally found the course less engaging than Sharpened Visions. That said, “Modern Poetry” certainly has a lot to offer. Hammer’s lectures are far from dry – he brings passion to his classes and he sprinkles his lectures on poets with dozens of anecdotes about their lives and personalities.

“Modern Poetry” goes far more in-depth into the lives and styles of individual poets than any other course on this list. If you’re looking for an in-depth, academic approach to modern poets, this is the course for you.

“This course covers the body of modern poetry, its characteristic techniques, concerns, and major practitioners… Diverse methods of literary criticism are employed, such as historical, biographical, and gender criticism.”

The curriculum covers the following poets and themes over 25 sessions:

• Robert Frost
• William Butler Yeats
• World War I Poetry in England
• Imagism
• Ezra Pound
• T.S. Eliot
• Hart Crane
• Langston Hughes
• William Carlos Williams
• Marianne Moore
• Wallace Stevens
• W.H. Auden
• Elizabeth Bishop

15. Modern & Contemporary American Poetry – University of Pennsylvania via Coursera

• Price: Free
• Number of Sessions: 15 “chapters” over 10 weeks
• Live Instruction? Yes (once per year)
• Instructor feedback? No, but TAs are available for office hours

“ModPo” is a free course from the University of Pennsylvania taught via Coursera. It has an enormous amount of content, and the course takes approximately 93 hours to complete. While there is no feedback on poetry, there are TAs available who moderate weekly interactive live webcasts. They are also available for office hours and will even help arrange meetups.

They aim to make poetry accessible. Modpo is a “fast-paced introduction to modern and contemporary U.S. poetry, with an emphasis on experimental verse, from Emily Dickinson and Walt Whitman to the present. Participants (who need no prior experience with poetry) will learn how to read poems that are supposedly ‘difficult.’ We encounter and discuss the poems one at a time. It’s much easier than it seems! Join us and try it!”

Once per year, they run the course live.

The curriculum is as follows:

1. Whitman & Dickinson, two proto-modernists
2. Whitmanians & Dickinsonians
3. The rise of poetic modernism: imagism
4. The rise of poetic modernism: Williams
5. The rise of poetic modernism: modernist edges
6. The rise of poetic modernism: Stein
7. Communist poets of the 1930s
8. The Harlem Renaissance
9. Frost
10. Formalism of the 1950s
11. Breaking conformity: the beats
12. The New York School
13. Some trends in recent poetry: L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E
14. Some trends in recent poetry: chance
15. Some trends in recent poetry: conceptualism & unoriginality

How can I learn poetry for free?

Free online poetry courses are available from prestigious institutions such as Yale and the California Institute for the Arts. While these courses usually don’t offer live instruction or instructor feedback, they do offer a comprehensive foundation for aspiring and experienced poets alike. Some of these courses even offer the opportunity to interact with teaching assistants via office hours or other students via online forums. See our list of Free Online Poetry Workshops above.

Can you teach yourself to write poetry?

Yes! However, you will likely benefit from some form of feedback and instruction. It isn’t necessary to learn the classical forms in order to write compelling poetry. However, what is essential is getting feedback on your poems. 

Getting feedback from friends and family is great, but I recommend hiring at least one professional editor. As writers, we all need editors – we simply can’t see our own work clearly or objectively. How we see our own work is one thing, but how others perceive it is quite another. Getting an outside perspective by a trained professional is essential for the serious poet.

Likewise, studying poetry can help you understand the inner workings of poetry – you’ll learn why certain poems have a particular effect, and learn how to create a similar effect in your own poems.

Can I become a poet without a degree?

Yes! Absolutely. A poet is someone who writes poems and shares them with others. Your success as a poet is determined by your audience: are there people who like and connect with your poems? Then you’re a successful poet. 

While you can study poetry at a university, that is no guarantee that you will become a successful poet. Likewise, not studying poetry at a university is no guarantee that you won’t become a successful poet. 

How can you become a certified poet?

A lot of people ask this question. The thing is, you don’t need a certification to be a poet. You simply have to write poetry and share it with people.

In a world in which so many professions are dominated by certifications, it’s natural to wonder if there’s a certification for poetry. However, this kind of certification is mostly just a way for companies to enrich themselves by handing out certifications that mean very little.

The closest thing to a certification is a master’s degree. For example, you could get an MA in writing or an MFA in in Creative Writing. However, the instruction and feedback you receive during this process will likely be more valuable to you as a poet than the degree itself.

How do you become recognized as a legitimate poet? You do this by publishing poems in respected publications and submitting your poetry to contests. Don’t become discouraged if you don’t receive a positive response right away – nearly all creative writers must face the abyss of rejection after rejection before they see their work published.

What you can do, however, is keep revising your poems. Get the help of experts, hire an editor, participate in poetry workshops, and take poetry classes. You can find our selection of paid and free online poetry workshops above.

How do I start a career as a poet?

The traditional way to start a career as a poet is to send your poems to poetry competitions, literary magazines, and poetry publishers. As more of your work is published, you will have more opportunities to connect with people and develop a following.

However, this is not the only way. Today, some successful poets get their start on TikTok. Others self-publish poetry collections (after hiring a professional editor, of course!) and sell them in their communities, getting their books featured in local independent bookstores and selling them at artists’ markets. They go to open mics and poetry readings.

Other poets develop a following by keeping a blog or developing a social media following.

Others go to a graduate program at a university, where they not only learn technique but also find connections with people in the industry.

The point is, there are many ways to start a career as a poet. And just because people have done it a certain way in the past doesn’t mean you have to do it the same way. If you come up with a new way, let me know and I’ll add it to the list!